Planet Juice ™
Tales From A Thug Smoothie Company
(Bill Kamaka email)
There's a smoothie company here in San Francisco (as
well as franchises in other locations) that lists their
smoothies as "non-dairy" even though they contain milk
protein. This is bad news for people with serious dietary
restrictions, so I put up a
page about them and other companies to
warn people who might have issue with milk.
Planet Juice noticed the page a couple years later and
proceeded to threaten me through various venues to take
the page down.
This is that story.
I went to Planet Juice and noticed that they had changed their menu
to claim that their smoothies were dairy free. I happened to know that
they're using a soy frozen yogurt that is not free of milk. In fact,
if you read the ingredients on the mix it says "Casein (a milk protein)".
I let them know about their error, and the manager's response was "so?"
I should say "the man who claimed to be the manager" since everytime I
talk to someone at Planet Juice they:
Planet Juice has many managers, as far as I can tell.
- Refuse to give me their full name (he claimed to be "Troy?")
- Tell me that they are the manager.
He was amazingly rude to me, so I put up a page
to warn people about the Casein in the smoothies.
email from a "bkamaka" which is physically threatening.
It turns out that this "bkamaka" is the owner of the Planet Juice domain,
and I go into the store and ask if there is a "B. Kamaka" who works there
and I'm told (by employee "Marco") that "Bill Kamaka" owns the company.
So, according to Planet Juice's personnel, and according to their
domain registration, I have been threatened by someone who is high
up in the company.
- "keep looking over you back"
- "we take care of things old school"
- "..10 days it won't be worth it to you, think about"
I put his email online, and he stopped contacting me.
It's a pretty
funny read, if you can get
past the grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors.
I am contacted a few days later by a "Mike"
who is at the Haight
St. Planet Juice location. He repeatedly refuses to tell me his
last name, but he claims:
He seemed most upset by the posting of bkamaka's email, which
is amusing since he repeatedly claimed to not know who bkamaka is.
- He is the president of Planet Juice, the corporation ("the buck stops here")
- There is no "Bill Kamaka" that works for Planet Juice, and
they don't know who I received that email from, and I need
to "take that shit down." He continues to claim this after I
point out to him that this bkamaka owns his company's domain.
That doesn't seem to phase him.
- They are going to sue me for all the lies and the "trademark
infringement" on my page unless I take it down in 24 hours.
- He won't tell me what the "lies" and "trademark infringement"
are on my page unless I come into their store.
- It's just coincidence that he's contacting me days
after bkamaka stopped, as again, he doesn't know any bkamaka.
I change my page from claiming that Kamaka is the owner of Planet
Juice to instead say that they had told me that he was the
owner. I don't have proof that he's the actual owner (yet).
I can't see anything else they could legally fight me on.
He calls me back and is happy that we've made progress. This
is weird to me since I didn't really change anything and bkamaka's email is
still on my site. I tell him that I'm going to be updating the page
with everything that happens, and while he's unhappy, he
doesn't seem to push the lawsuit issue other than to tell me:
"Planet Juice is a big corporation and can afford thousands
of dollars in legal fees, can you afford thousands of dollars
in legal fees? Is your opinion worth that much?"
Nice. It has nothing to do with the truth or legality of the
matter, just a pure abuse of corporate power.
Go Planet Juice! You win my "Corporate Citizen Of The Year" award!
(And incidentally, Mike, I happen to love my opinion and would
rather you didn't try to take it away, so yes, it is
worth that much)
UPDATE: Two years later I am happy to report that Planet Juice
on Haight St has lost their lease and has closed! They still have
other locations, hopefully their "business practices" will get those
shut down as well.
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